Monday 5 October 2015

Timewalking BiS - Retribution Paladin

gearing for BiS set in timewalking can be a very fun thing to do, especially for players who enjoy diablo3. in fact, it really feel like the same to me. we rip apart old raids to get our BiS items and then use the gears to storm through timewalking dungeons over and over.

please do not underestimate the power of getting BiS set because the difference is really huge. a skillful player can do up to 500-700% more dps as compared to average players with no BiS. even if both players are equally skilled, the player with BiS can still do around 200-300% more dps.

so this is a great time to dust off our old tier-sets, shiny trinkets and weapons. over the month, i've also gone through many hours on theory-crafting as well as personally testing out various tier-sets and trinkets in timewalking dungeons. below is the list of items which you can take reference.


Head Slot

Helmet of Winged Triumph is our tier 16 helm from SOO raid, and is also the best helm you can get.

Capacitive Primal Diamond is the legendary MOP meta gem. the proc from this meta gem is way stronger than all other types of meta gem.


Neck Slot

any WOD necklace with a socket will be the best. because sockets in WOD is classified as tiertary stats, which is given free, and will not eat into the budget of the main/secondary stats.

whereas all pre-WOD necklace with a socket usually get a discounted main/secondary stats.

Gift of Haste is the best enchant. why not mastery? because most of our BiS gears lack of haste and we need around 15% haste to be effective. of course, the best gem is also Immaculate Haste Taladite.


Shoulder Slot

Pauldrons of Radiant Glory is our tier 13 shoulder from DS raid and we want to get the full tier-set bonus.

Greater Tiger Fang Inscription is naturally the best enchant for this slot.


Back Slot

Gong-Lu, Strength of Xuen legendary MOP cloak is the best, no arguments needed!

Gift of Haste is the best enchant, as explained above.


Chest Slot

Battleplate of Radiant Glory our tier 13 chest from DS raid and we want to get the full tier-set bonus.

Enchant Chest - Glorious Stats or Peerless Stats are equally good, use whichever you can get.


Wrist Slot

Rockhide Bracers is the best bracer drop from DS raid, you can easily farm for it.

Major Strength is the best enchant but this is a rare world drop in CATA, you will need some luck or you can just buy it from the AH.

Exceptional Strength is the next best enchant which is much easier to get in MOP.


Hand Slot

Gauntlets of Radiant Glory is our tier 13 glove from DS raid and we want to get the full tier-set bonus.

Enchant Gloves - Super Strength or Mighty Strength are equally good, use whichever you can find in CATA or MOP.


Waist Slot

Demolisher's Reinforced Belt
Living Steel Belt Buckle
best belt drop from SOO raid but we can't solo SOO yet. if you have it, please keep it well.

Runescriven Demon Collar
Ebonsteel Belt Buckle
fortunately, the belt from DS raid is almost equally good.

remember to add an extra socket from the blacksmith and use the belt buckle intended for that particular expansion.


Leg Slot

Legplates of Radiant Glory our tier 13 pant from DS raid and we want to get the full tier-set bonus.

Angerhide Leg Armor is the best enchant, from MOP.


Feet Slot

Treads of Crushed Flesh is the best boot, drop from DS raid,

Pandaren's Step is a mastery enchant with walking speed. i know there is a haste enchant but i think the walking speed from pandaren's step is more useful (or more fun!)


Ring Slot

it is very sad that our WOD legendary ring, Thorasus, the Stone Heart of Draenor is useless because the ring has a percentage buff and percentage buff lose its meaning after it is further scaled down in timewalking.

Ashen Band of Endless Might and Spellbound Runic Band of Elemental Power should be our BiS in overall dps, mainly due to their powerful procs. however the procs is also a problem because ideally we want the rings to proc on bosses or large pulls but in reality, you have totally no control when the proc will happen.

Gift of Haste is the best enchant for ring, as explained above unless you already exceed 15% haste, in that case, you can consider mastery enchant.

if you prefer "consistent" dps, like i do, then you should simply get any 2 WOD ring with a socket. because sockets in WOD is classified as tiertary stats, which is given free, and will not eat into the budget of the main/secondary stats, thus giving higher passive stats as compared to all pre-WOD rings. in this case, the best gem is Immaculate Haste Taladite


Trinket Slot

firstly, you have to decide whether to use on-use trinkets or passive trinkets. i would prefer passive trinkets to achieve "consistent" dps for trash but i also like to have a nice boost during boss fight. the answer is easy, since we cannot trigger 2 on-use trinket together, you might as well use 1 passive trinket and 1 on-use trinket.

in timewalking, all trinkets will be scale down to match the level of the timewalking. the only way is to test out all the trinkets one by one to find out how useful or how useless it has become. i've spend many hours testing out famous trinkets in TBC, ICC, CATA, MOP only to end up in disappointment because many trinkets from the old raids end up worse than or just equal to WOD trinkets. the famous one such as Deathbringer's Will has a stupidly long internal CD and Bone-Link Fetish does not even proc at all and Tiny Abomination in a Jar proc has became too weak. the only exceptional old trinket that is worth mentioning is the pvp trinket, Cataclysmic Gladiator's Badge of Victory, which you can now get it cheap by paying 800 honor points, has a worthy on-use strength boost.

anyways, to make things simple, you can more or less narrow down to using WOD trinkets. because WOD trinkets has a chance to came with a free socket too. i don't really like proc trinkets that has an internal CD for 1-2 minute because you have no control when it will proc, and it is very likely that it will not when i needed it most, which is annoying. of course you can disagree with me but these are my top choices.

Vial of Convulsive Shadows is my first choice because i prefer the high amount of passive strength and it has a decent on-use boost. and mine also came with a socket!

Discordant Chorus is my second choice. because fel cleave is really powerful on trash mobs and it is also decent for single-target boss too, and mine has a socket!

another worth mentioning is Scabbard of Kyanos because it is the most powerful on-use trinket. i don't have it because it is expensive and my two choices is already good enough.

if your trinket has a socket, best gem is Immaculate Haste Taladite

Edit: there is 1 particular ICC trinket, Tiny Abomination in a Jar, which has been proven by several players that it is extremely powerful in TBC timewalking (and the same group of players also confirmed it is very weak in WOTLK / CATA timewalking)

Weapon Slot

Shadowmourne is the best at all times.

Edit: even though we have CATA timewalking now, shadowmourne is still the best weapon due to the strength proc. the only cons is having a slightly lower hp-stamina as compared to using CATA weapon.

if you don't have shadowmourne, there are a few more weapons worth considering.

second choice - Uroe, Harbinger of Terror - solo lei shen
third choice - Shin'ka, Execution of Dominion - solo sha of fear
you can use the legendary MOP socket and legendary MOP gem on these two weapons.

fourth choice - Sulfuras, the Extinguished Hand
the easiest to get, solo firelands ragnaros

fifth choice - Hellscream's Decapitator
from MOP garrosh heirloom



and that's it. although everybody has the same item-level in timewalking, you will be surprised that a BiS player can still pull a large margin ahead. the difference is really huge, so don't wait any more, go ahead and have some fun!

12 comments:

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    Bone-Link Fetish and other Dragon Soul trinkets should now correctly have a chance to trigger their effects when players are scaled down below level 90.
    Corrected an issue that caused some legacy items from the Normal difficulty Pit of Saron dungeon to lose their gem sockets.

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    1. too bad i vendor my bone-link fetish before the fix
      not sure when it will drop again lol

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    2. It's still pretty crap though. It does proc for like 50k, but the ICD is really long at 90 sec so overall it does very very little damage.

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  2. does the tier set work with final verdict?

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  3. the belt you linked is super duper rare

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    1. yeah, i don't have that too
      that's why im using the belt from DS, which is much easier to get

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  4. There is a better belt from blacksmithing from mop. I don't remember the name but it's crit haste (ignore weaker stats) and 2 red sockets instead of 1 red 1 yellow

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    1. Protector's Trillium Waistguard - Crit/Mast and 2 red sockets or Avenger's Trillium Waistplate - Crit/Haste and 2 red sockets. Both +8 str socket bonus.

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    2. This guy has no idea of TW bis.
      Better boots from Halion ruby sanctum. Better boots enchant instead of 8 mastery and unstacking MS there is 10 ap ench. Better bracers with 2 sockets red (bracers of destructive strength). Darmoon card: Greatness hands down one of the best trinkets in tw. Gormok's band instead of this anti trinket from icc. Enchanted pearl is 13 all stats gem that fits all slots (yet no mention).His third weapon choice is better than his second one. Also his third weapon choice is slightly better than SM in End Time dungeon because of the extra scale up from the rest cata dungeons

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    3. Oh and the biggest clown fiesta is gemming 20 haste gems instead of 10 strength as he had written.

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